Most pointless set of pedestrian lights?

Is this the most pointless set of pedestrian lights in the UK/world? This road leads only to the car parks of the International Swimming Pool, ice rink and yacht club in Cardiff. A Zebra Crossing would have been cheaper to purchase, install and maintain and delay both pedestrians and motorists much less.
Does anyone know the typical price difference of a pelican and zebra crossing?

I have marked the location of this crossing in red on the map.
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    Ian Perry

    I came across this:

    "At many intersections outside of downtown areas, pedestrians need to use pedestrian pushbuttons. This may require pedestrians who are blind to divert from their path of travel to find and use the pushbutton. When pedestrian pushbutton use is required to get the walk signal, the pedestrian has to align and cross during the next pedestrian phase, leaving no time to listen to moving parallel traffic and realign before crossing"

    Now surely a zebra crossing is more user friendly to a blind person and guide dog than a pelican crossing?
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    David Neylan

    As I understand it Pelican crossings are old technology replaced by Puffin crossings.

    The Pelican has the green and red man on the the opposite side of the road, visible to the driver and pedestrian with an audible crossing signal.

    The Puffin has the green and red man on the button box not visible to the driver and the audible signal is replaced by a revolving cone under the button box that has to be felt for by the blind ( yes it's true).

    In Bridport 2 years ago a Puffin crossing cost £26,000 to install, at the same time a four way lights controlled junction was upgraded from Pelicans to Puffins costing £85,000.
    Last year the removal of a Zebra crossing, resurfacing, installing a Pelican with 'refuge' (caged) island cost £100,000.

    I got all this from my council they are obliged to reveal this sort of information.
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    Martin Cassini

    Good information, David. The public money spent on segregating and alienating us from each other, all in the name of safety (when the very foundation of traffic control is flawed, so the measures are in vain and the money wasted), is an under-reported scandal. My next piece for Economic Affairs (still a month or two away from publication), addresses the subject, and asks if we need look any further for painless public expenditure cuts.

    David Neylan said:
    As I understand it Pelican crossings are old technology replaced by Puffin crossings.

    The Pelican has the green and red man on the the opposite side of the road, visible to the driver and pedestrian with an audible crossing signal.

    The Puffin has the green and red man on the button box not visible to the driver and the audible signal is replaced by a revolving cone under the button box that has to be felt for by the blind ( yes it's true).

    In Bridport 2 years ago a Puffin crossing cost £26,000 to install, at the same time a four way lights controlled junction was upgraded from Pelicans to Puffins costing £85,000.
    Last year the removal of a Zebra crossing, resurfacing, installing a Pelican with 'refuge' (caged) island cost £100,000.

    I got all this from my council they are obliged to reveal this sort of information.